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BCHN vs ABC in numbers : there's a clear winner.

I've breakdown the data in Four sets : pool support, companies/organisations support, infrastructure, futures price. I’ll update the data based on your comments - as I probably forgot some key players - so it is the most accurate !
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MINERS SUPPORT :
Pools signaling BCHN : BTC.top : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/icgm21/its_over_btctop_saying_no_ifp_is_the_nail_in/
Bitcoin.com : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/ibxlok/bitcoincom_recommended_node_implementation_fo
Binance : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/ib7lq8/binance_pool_is_now_signalling_powered_by_bchn/
Huobi : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/ic4pnu/huobi_just_signaled_poweredbybchn/
P2Pool : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/ib9fzs/p2pool_just_mined_a_bchn_block/
Hashpipe : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/ianjrf/new_mining_pool_hashpipe_takes_stand_against/
Easy2mine : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/i7xn9w/easy2mine_is_now_signaling_for_bchn/
Viabtc* : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/i7xn9w/easy2mine_is_now_signaling_for_bchn/
Okex : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/idzs24/okex_now_signaling_for_bchn_estimated_67_of_hash/
Pools signaling ABC :
Viabtc* : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/i7xn9w/easy2mine_is_now_signaling_for_bchn/
Conclusion :
BCHN hash signaled : Around 64%
ABC hash signaled : Around 5%
Hash unsignaled : Around 31% (mainly Jihan Wu with Antpool & btc.com pools)
*ViaBTC said they were going to support the 2 implementations and once asked to clarify, stated that ABC would be the default implementation for the miners in their pool (I divided the hashrate by 2 regarding Viabtc to obtain the hash signaled numbers).
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COMPANIES/ORGANISATIONS SUPPORT :
Companies/organisations signaling BCHN :
All other node implementations : BU, BCHD, Bitcoin Verde, Knuth : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/i47xji/this_is_a_golden_opportunity_for_bchn_bu_bchd/
Readcash : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/ifio6n/readcash_will_support_bchnbchd_side_of_the_split/
Membercash : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/ifl3fl/membercash_will_stick_with_the_bchn_compatible/
Mainnet : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/i4y76a/warning_mainnet_will_support_bchnside_only_if_you/
Bitcoin.com : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/i76ab0/to_our_customers_regarding_the_bitcoin_cash/
SLP foundation : https://read.cash/@SLP-Foundation/simple-ledger-protocols-joint-statement-regarding-bitcoin-abc-on-bchs-november-2020-upgrade-3ba8d706
Coinex** : https://twitter.com/yhaiyang/status/1297377355602653189
Lazyfox : https://www.reddit.com/btc/comments/ifp6c8/bchn_vs_abc_in_numbers_theres_a_clear_winneg2ozj9w/
Companies/organisations signaling ABC :
Coinex** : https://twitter.com/yhaiyang/status/1297377355602653189
**Haipo Yang stated that he would support both coins.
Conclusion :
BCHN : More than 10 companies/organisations
ABC : 1 company
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INFRASTRUCTURE :
BCHN :
fulcrum (electrum server that electron and others depend on)
electrs (electrum server that electron and others depend on)
crescent wallet
bitcoincashj
all electrum servers for electron
cash accounts infrastructure
infrastructure run by im_uname
slp infrastructure
General Protocols' BCH Price Oracle, smart contract redemption services
Electrum Cash
Fullstack.cash
HonkHonk : https://twitter.com/realhonktoken/status/1298095753789943808
ABC :
Cointext
Fullstack.cash
Be.cash
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FUTURES PRICE :
BCHN : 288$ https://coinflex.com/markets/BCH-USD-SWAP-LIN
ABC : 29$ https://coinflex.com/markets/BCHABC-USD-201225-LIN
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BCH nov15-dec15 update . BCH moves along and claims its #4 place back on CMC


https://news.bitcoin.com/hash-wars-bch-proponents-face-a-new-dawn-in-the-battles-aftermath/


35 days later after the fork, Bitcoin Cash supporters are working towards moving past the hash war that took place a little after the scheduled BCH upgrade on Nov. 15. Now both networks are operating and the Bitcoin Satoshi’s Vision (BSV) coin has its own price ticker and market capitalization listed on data sites like Coinmarketcap and Satoshi Pulse. A portion of crypto-trading platforms have now listed BSV as a separate currency and the entire ecosystem of exchanges, payment processors and a great majority of wallets have awarded the ABC side of the chain the BCH ticker. At the time of writing, the global average price for BCH is $144 after markets jumped 47 percent on Dec. 19. BSV spiked 18 percent this Tuesday and each coin is currently trading for $92 per token.

Since the fork, the BCH network hashrate has dropped considerably, even more so than the 50 percent loss BTC suffered this past month. Average hashrates for a great number of SHA-256 algorithm coins have endured deep drops in processing power according to global statistics. The Bitcoin Cash hashrate used to command a rough average of 5 exahash per second (EH/s), but now only captures 1 EH/s to 850 petahash per second (PH/s) on a daily basis throughout this month.

On the bright side, the BCH network has been 5-8 percent more profitable to mine than BTC over the last two days. Further, BCH has amassed a large swathe of different mining pools that are processing BCH blocks on a regular basis. This includes Viabtc, Btc.com, Antpool, Multipool, Bitcoin.com, Btc.top, Waterhole, Copernicus, P2pool, Ckpool, and some other unknown mining entities as well.

Another BCH metric that has halved since the fork on Nov. 15 is the cryptocurrency’s daily transaction rate over the last month. Before, bitcoin cash transactions per day were about 20,000-25,000, whereas today that number stands at roughly 9,750 over the course of the last 24 hours. Over the last three weeks, the BCH daily transaction rate has been averaging 10k per day, with a few instances of 15k-22k spikes here and there. There has been a steady increase in daily transactions week after week, and with 99 percent of BCH infrastructure back in order, this should continue.

A good example of this behavior is the increase in BCH price and trade volume on exchanges over the last few weeks. Pre-fork BCH trade volumes captured anywhere between $400-900 million worth of global trades every day. After the fork, this statistic dropped to around $50-100 million daily on global exchanges. This was because some cryptocurrency trading platforms with a ton of bitcoin cash liquidity had paused BCH transactions and some exchanges halted trading. Week after week, however, global BCH trade volume has been steadily increasing on exchanges like Upbit, Binance, Huobi, Lbank, and Coinbase Pro. With the 40 percent increase over the last 24 hours, BCH trade volume has jumped to over $400 million in global trades on Dec. 19. At the time of publication, this makes BCH the seventh most traded digital asset out of the entire crypto economy.

The Bitcoin Cash community had also suffered from daily battles on Reddit’s btc forum and social media platforms like Twitter. A good portion of the trolling and infighting seems to have quietened down, and most BCH supporters are just trying to move forward. There’s been plenty of developments since the fork, with projects like Electron Cash, Honest Cash, Cash Shuffle, and Openswap adding more utility to the BCH network. Furthermore, BCH enthusiasts look forward to the upcoming BCH upgrades that are under discussion and they can track the code’s development too. For now, BCH supporters are extremely pleased that the fork is behind them and are thrilled to reclaim fourth position among all cryptocurrency market capitalizations.
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F2Pool is not properly validating blocks, their fork is winning temporarily. SPV clients and Blockchain.info are inaccurate

https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000cb7a20ee4e199e347ad7369936abae53a1518efa531ec61
You'll notice that your up to date full node and other properly run block explorers won't even recognize 00000000000000000cb7a20ee4e199e347ad7369936abae53a1518efa531ec61 since it's an invalid block.
This fork should resolve itself once F2Pools fork loses. All miners using F2Pool should migrate until F2Pool updates.
Edit: Antpool just mined a block on top of that, leave antpool as well https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000966d65e0fd87d1d5a8f154a2c955816c28e2006e381aa18
Just to be clear I am not endorsing blockchain.info and am in fact only using their links because they are using an out of date client that considers these blocks valid.
Right now the invalid fork is at 363734, the valid fork is at 363732, they the split starts at 363731 (they both agree on block 363730). In other words the invalid fork is 4 blocks deep, the valid fork is 2. SPV clients may be inaccurate.
Edit 2: invalid fork at 5 blocks deep, valid fork at 2. Fortunately most of these blocks don't have transactions except for 94 in 0000000000000000009cc829aa25b40b2cd4eb83dd498c12ad0d26d90c439d99 (the rest have only the coinbase tx).
Edit 3: Since Antpool + F2Pool + BTCNuggets aren't following the rules and comprise about 40% of the hashrate, until they update you can expect forks like this that will be quite long.
If you're a miner, validate blocks. Not validating blocks is harmful to the network, run a full node and use GBT with a pool providing that option or P2Pool and you won't even have to worry about your hash power contributing to this.
Edit 4: The invalid fork is winning 6-2, anyone who is told by either their SPV client, Blockchain.info or an old Bitcoin client that they have 6 confirmations actually has 0, these 99 transactions are on an invalid blockchain and will be reorged out in a 6 block reorg.
Edit 5: 5-6 now, it's almost over, F2Pool is not mining for now it seems.
Edit 6: Fork is over until it happens again. Mine fully validating!
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List of relevant parties we need to convince before we make the jump for bigger maxblocksize

Now that the blocksize debate is back in the spotlight again, we all need to be reminded:
A hardfork is difficult to do under any circumstances.
That said, I don't believe that we'll need "100%" as some... ahem respectable folks in the community claim; Bitcoin is nothing without its economy and ecosystem, and what's essential to a fork is that it has the overwhelming majority of economic activity. Assuming the miners are not malicious, they will follow - and they will be onboard sooner and make the process less destructive if they see the overwhelming majority sooner.
Therefore, I propose we compile a checklist of major parties that we need to convince, in order to gain momentum on this. This list will become very useful once gavinandresen, mikehearn and jgarzik finish their version of 0.11 / 0.11A XT for review.
I'll start with a list. The list is only a starter from my limited knowledge, so feel free to suggest changes:
Exchanges and Payment Processors
Major services/merchants that use a node
Note: Merchants that use payment processors will switch if payment processors are on board.
Major mining pools
Unfortunately Eligius can never be convinced. What a shame. =\
Wallets
Greenaddress is unlikely to be convinced.
Information website
While not essential to the ecosystem, will probably help a lot in getting the words out and hence building momentum.
Feel free to suggest additions/changes to the checklist. Let's get a roadmap so that we know what to aim for.
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List of relevant parties we need to convince before we make the jump for bigger maxblocksize (repost from /r/bitcoin)

I think this might lead to a more constructive discussion here, considering how this place is much smaller, etc.
Now that the blocksize debate is back in the spotlight again, we all need to be reminded:
A hardfork is difficult to do under any circumstances.
That said, I don't believe that we'll need "100%" as some... ahem respectable folks in the community claim; Bitcoin is nothing without its economy and ecosystem, and what's essential to a fork is that it has the overwhelming majority of economic activity. Assuming the miners are not malicious, they will follow - and they will be onboard sooner and make the process less destructive if they see the overwhelming majority sooner.
Therefore, I propose we compile a checklist of major parties that we need to convince, in order to gain momentum on this. This list will become very useful once gavinandresen, mike_hearn and jgarzik finish their version of 0.11 / 0.11A XT for review.
I'll start with a list. The list is only a starter from my limited knowledge, so feel free to suggest changes:
Exchanges and Payment Processors
Major services/merchants that use a node
Note: Merchants that use payment processors will switch if payment processors are on board.
Major mining pools
Unfortunately Eligius can never be convinced. What a shame. =\
Wallets
Greenaddress is unlikely to be convinced.
Information website
While not essential to the ecosystem, will probably help a lot in getting the words out and hence building momentum.
Feel free to suggest additions/changes to the checklist. Let's get a roadmap so that we know what to aim for.
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